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zasa je tu nieco zaujimave..

Napsal: pát úno 17, 2006 4:58 am
od ps47
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tato karta nieje nic ine ako voodoo2 SLI 3xTMU (pre jedno FBI).

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a vysli najavo aj dalsie zaujimave informacie:
"Since you seem to be interested in everything related to 3Dfx I just wandered if you were aware of Primary Image and their 3Dfx based products. These were by far the most advanced application of 3Dfx technology at the time. The cards were aimed at the visual simulation market and not consumers. I used to work for them and wrote pretty much all the drivers and software for their 3Dfx based products.

They rolled out Piranha (http://www.wave-report.com/1997_Wave_is ... tml#723.12) in October 1997. This was a PCI board that had the following on it:
- an embedded Mips R5000 200MHz processor that ran an embedded version of Glide driven by the client side part of the Tempest scene manager, the srever sid ran on the PC. The client side did all the cull/draw calculations thus relieving the PC's CPU of this burdon and allowing multiple cards to be placed in a single PC (see below)
- a Voodoo 1 FBI with 3 TMU's (to my knowledge thie and the Baracuds are the only 3Dfx implementations by anyone to have 3 TMU's). This allowed for a tri-linear filtered base texture and a dithered trilinear filtered secondary texture, or even three dithered tri-linear textures in a single pass.
- A daughter card with another Voodoo 1 FBI with another 3 TMU's. This was used in SLI mode with the set on the base card.

The cards had a pixel bus connector system that allowed 2, 4 or 8 of them to be joined together and composited into a single channel to generate 2x, 4x or 8x rotated grid anti-aliasing. There were also tiling options so that half the cards could generate the left side of the screen and the other half the right side thus doubling the pixel fill rate and increasing the maximum resolution to 1280x1024. A second connector system was used to daisy chain the Pixel Clock, VSync and HSync signals, thus allowing mutliple channels to be video sychronized. Industrial PC's were used which had up to 20 PCI slots in a 19 inch 6U rack mount chassis. The PC was a single board computer (SBC) that plugged into the end slot. This sytem was developed almost 2 years before Quantum3D debuted their 3Dfx based AA offering.

In November 1998 Barracuda (http://www.wave-report.com/1998_Wave_is ... chor197511 and http://www.primary-image.com/training_s ... design.htm) was released. This was similar to Piranha with the following updates - The Mips processor was upgraded to a 300MHz R7000. The Voodoo chips were upgraded to Voodoo 2, still 2 FBI and 6 TMU with the daughter card. An additional bus was added to optionally allow the geometry processing to be performed by a seperate card (called Cruncher) which had two 300MHz MIPS R7000's. The Cruncher would broadcast the polygon data to all the Barracuda's in a single channel by DMAing to a memory window. The local R7000 on each Barracuda would read the polygon data, add it's own local sub-pixel offset for anti-aliasing, then send the draw commands to the Voodoo 2 chips. A Galileo PCI bridge was added so that the 3Dfx graphics chips were visible on the PC's PCI bus (on Piranha the PC could not derectly access the Voodoo chips). Multi-card configuration options were the same as Piranha.

Primary Image had to stop using 3Dfx chips after Voodoo2 because 3Dfx signed there agreement with Quantum3D for them to be the sole source for later generations of 3Dfx based systems in the Visual Simulation field."
prevzano z falconflys :wink: : http://www.falconfly-central.de/cgi-bin ... 741;start=

Napsal: pát úno 17, 2006 2:24 pm
od -HoNY-
opravdu zajmave ne kolik se odhaduje hodnota? nikde sem to tam nenasel? 300dolarů?

Napsal: pát úno 17, 2006 3:19 pm
od no-X
Jedný karty? Nevím, ale $300 se mi na takovouhle vzácnost zdá opravdu hodně málo.

Napsal: pát úno 17, 2006 3:24 pm
od ps47
..co s clovekom spravi jedna voodoo5 za par sto korun Obrázek

jedna karta stala 9000$ ked bola nova :wink:

Napsal: pát úno 17, 2006 5:03 pm
od -HoNY-
ps47 píše:..co s clovekom spravi jedna voodoo5 za par sto korun Obrázek
kdyby jenom jedna :lol: uz jich mam 5, ses ta na ceste :lol:
ps47 píše:jedna karta stala 9000$ ked bola nova :wink:
kdysy jsem v nejakym "super" hernim casopise cetl ze nejaka az 64 chipova novinka od 3dfx stoji pres 6 melcků

Napsal: sob úno 18, 2006 2:33 am
od Taskr
Hergot to je krásná grafika. Co říkáte chlapy, kdyby jste se mohli rozhodnout mezi tímto, a nebo GeForce 7800 GTX co by jste radši?

Napsal: sob úno 18, 2006 11:55 am
od ghost
Taskr píše:co by jste radši?
X1900 :wink:

Napsal: sob úno 18, 2006 5:01 pm
od ps47
..herecy!

Napsal: ned bře 05, 2006 1:31 pm
od no-X

Napsal: ned bře 05, 2006 1:46 pm
od ps47
pekneee :)

uz to niekto z falconflys ma skompletovane?

Napsal: ned bře 05, 2006 4:41 pm
od no-X
Tahle fotka mi dneska dorazila na mail. Poslali jí z nějaký garáže 8D (bohužel bez dalších informací)

Napsal: ned bře 05, 2006 11:28 pm
od Petrik9
tak jako tak to je pekny kousek,a jestli tohle je jediny nebo nejvice ohrozeny druh tak je to skoda.Kdyby k tomu bylo vice informaci bylo by to urcite lepsi...

Napsal: ned bře 05, 2006 11:44 pm
od no-X
Petrik9 píše:Kdyby k tomu bylo vice informaci bylo by to urcite lepsi...
Vždyť všechno potřebný je k přečtení v prvním postu a okazech v něm. Co dalšího bys chtěl ještě vědět? :-)

Napsal: ned bře 05, 2006 11:50 pm
od Petrik9
no-x:nenasel jsem tam info o pametech.I delka karet pro info by nebyla taky spatna.Nejake testy ci jine by nebyly taky spatne a uz ani dal nevim.

Napsal: pon bře 06, 2006 12:09 am
od no-X
Vždyť říkám, že tam je všechno :-)
The primary architectural features are:

* On board MIPS R7000 RISC processor
* 64Mbyte SDRAM Processor Memory
* ProprietarySDRAM Controller (ALTERA FPGA)
* Multiplechannel 3dfx Rendering Pipelines
* Proprietary Pixel Formatting Unit for Anti-Aliasing (ALTERA FPGA)
* Video Output Stage
* PCI Bridge hardware
* PCI card form-factor

Physical parameters:

* Dimensions 340 mm x 122 mm
* Geometry Track Thickness 0.15 mm
* Spacing 0.15 mm
* Layer Count Signal 8
* Power 4
* Via Size 0.3 mm
A testy? Jaký testy? To není karta na hry. Pochybuju, že by na tom vůbec nějaký běhaly. Pochybuju, že by ti výsledky z nějakýho speciálního sim. SW od PI řeky něco o výkonu :-)

Napsal: pon bře 06, 2006 12:30 am
od Petrik9
no-x:dobre tak jsem slepej.Ale myslel jsem ze to neni az tak oddalene od bezne VGA karty do PC.Nevim tedy k cemu by bylo potreba tolik pameti na tu dobu.Maximalne na cad a asi ani to ne...

Napsal: pon bře 06, 2006 12:44 am
od no-X
To je pro simulátory. Karta nese vlastní procesor, pro který je určeno těch 64MB. Dále pak 8MB jako frame buffer a zřejmě 2x 8MB pro textury.

Napsal: pon bře 06, 2006 12:54 am
od Petrik9
no-x:tudiz nam to je na nic...Skoda,vypa to pekne.Takze je asi 3Dfx nejvice rozsirena do celkoveho GK prumyslu(byla).Ani nevim ze toho tolik delali.No,nebudu uz spamovat tento tread.

Napsal: sob zář 09, 2006 4:29 pm
od ps47
..v mojom prvom poste je spomenuta aj Piranha,alias Voodoo Graphics SLI 6 TMU..eat :twisted:


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Napsal: sob zář 09, 2006 8:41 pm
od I.C.
I find the darndest things eh?